Monday, June 20, 2005

This is so gay...

     Spain is about to pass a bill legalizing gay marriage in that country. Catholic bishops led a 1/2 million person protest Saturday, but polls indicate that the bill is favored by a majority of Spaniards. Anyway, I'm sure this story was written by a AP staffer in favor of the bill, but these quotes from the protesters are priceless.
     "Marriage can only be between man and a woman," said Agustin Cruz, 41. "It's a divine and natural law. Marriage of homosexuals is a lie. You have to call things by their name. The first lie begins when you start calling queers 'gays.' They're queers, it's not an insult, it's the definition of that race of people."
(I like how calling them gays instead of queers is against natural law)
     Father Jose Ramon Velasco said, "And they shouldn't have the right to adopt because if those children turn out to be homosexual, who will be to blame, the government?" "Back then [1930's] the majority of people also backed Hitler just like the majority back this law"
(I don't know which part I like better, that we have to blame someone if kids are gay, or that voting to extend rights to gays is akin to voting for someone who promises to mass murder them)
     The article also said, The Bishops' Conference last week said the gay marriage bill was the biggest challenge to the church and its values in 2,000 years. I'm not an expert on Spanish government. But unless the church is part of the government, I don't see how this bill affects the church. And I feel like the church has dealt with bigger challenges in 2,000 years - persecution of Christians in Rome, the Reformation in the middle ages, the breakaway of the entire country of England, the Papal Schism of the 14th century, priests molesting little boys in the 20th. To call Spain's legalization of 2 men to share a bank account and own a house together the "biggest challenge to the church in 2,000 years" is to show a complete lack of knowledge and respect for the church's history, and a gross overstatement of the impact of this law.

9 comments:

Mike said...

You'll never hear me defend the Catholic Church. But when you get 1/2 million people together you're bound to get one or two nuts, and it looks like this reporter found them. I'm sure if you went to a NOW convention you could find one or two people who would call Bush a Nazi. Heck, we have those in the U.S. Senate.

I can understand though why a church would feel threatened by the legalization of gay marriage. What do you think is going to happen when the state legalizes it? Think about it. A gay couple is going to want to get married in the Catholic Church. The Church is going to say no. The couple is going to sue the Church. Some court will rule the Church is discriminating and order it to marry the couple. Now you have the state telling a church what it must believe and how it must run its affairs. Legalizing gay marriage is just the first step to state control of the Church.

But I don't condone the comments of the two individuals quoted in the article. I think there is a better way of protecting the traditions of marriage than arguing over semantics and comparing people to Hitler. (Really, all the Hitler analogies are getting tired. We need a new villian.)

Scott said...

With all due respect, Mike, I quite think we can do without a new villain for a long, long time.

Ben said...

I feel that until the Catholic Church cleans up their little problem with queer priests doing little boys, they need to shut the hell up.

Mike said...

Like Howard Dean, I'll clarify my remark rather than apologize. I'm not suggesting we need a new Hitler to rise to power. I was suggesting (in jest) that there are so many villians over the course of history that there must be somebody else we can compare people too. How about some Stalin or Ghengis Khan analogies? Give us some variety. Where's Dennis Miller when you need him?

ignerens said...

New villians? I think Saddam was a pretty good replacement until they found him hiding in that spider hole.

And the underwear pictures really just shot his evil villian credibility to hell. Did those pictures remind anyone else of the creepy creepy Calvin Klein ads from the 80's??

Mike said...

Yeah. I don't think he'll be getting any Fruit of the Loom endorsement deals anytime soon.

They should have given him some Spiderman underoos to wear. That would have been fitting considering they pulled him out of a spider hole.

Ben said...

Spiderman underoos might constitute torture. After all, god forbid that Saddam be exposed to something wholly good like a superhero. It's just cruel!

sideshow bob said...

Spiderman is an evildoer...don't you read the Daily Bugle?

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